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'An aphorism, properly stamped and molded, has not been "deciphered" when it has simply been read; rather one has then to begin its interpretation, for which is required an art of interpretation.' -- Nietzsche, 'On the Genealogy of Morals'

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January 24, 2008

Melissa Greg has kindly provided an online link to her Feeling Ordinary: Blogging as conversational scholarship paper in Continuum that I indirectly referred to in this post. The paper is a defence of academic blogging.

Greg mentions the potential that self-publishing platforms like weblogs have for academia in terms of both what an academic career can involve—and involving to an interested public:

Blogs have made scholarly work accessible and accountable to a readership outside the academy, an achievement that seems important in the history of cultural studies’ concerns... The ‘interpellative imperative’ of criticism as a genre...seems to have avoided discussion of how practices like blogging fit within a tradition of public intellectualism otherwise mourned .... As I want to argue here, it has also overlooked blogging’s role in carrying out cultural studies’ long-standing commitment to scholarship which reaches beyond the limited range of the academic sphere.

The institutional constraints on academics that challenged the objectives of sharing knowledge and fostering conversation with an audience outside the university are then mentioned in relation to the ethos of cultural studies which asks that academics make a career out of ‘rocking the boat’. These constraints in Australia are:

* the effects of the bureaucratisation of the university on the writing of academics in the humanities and social sciences’. Academics now write in order to fulfill the criteria of a carefully managed university institution and this pushing their writing ‘away from contribution to culture and society. Academics publish regularly in refereed journals to secure their career and professional advancement.

* academic professionalism brings a necessary end to a certain cherished sense of political engagement as public intellectuals.

So blogging is seen as extra-curricular intellectual engagement (community work) or viewed with hostility. So the intellectual life of the walled university is that of a gated community and that outside is defined in terms of self-serving, self-aggrandising or self-delusional. Why so? Gregg says that the ‘publish or perish’ dictum has been particularly effective in narrowing the ambitions many academics hold for their writing to the extent that a ‘yearning to work with words when there is no clear benefit’ is regularly met with disbelief, if not also disapproval, from colleagues.

Surely blogs are a different kind of writing for a different audience from the closed world of academia? Gregg suggests that blogging lies in the ‘mid-range’ between disciplinary insularism and public intellectual practice, and she unpacks it thus:

the ‘conversational scholarship’ it gives rise to can be seen to follow a tradition that includes independent and small press publishing, reading groups, salons and even café culture; that is, before the real estate boom and rising standards of living demanded that urban-based students work full time to support their study, severely limiting other forms of recreational intellectual practice.

This is how I've understood it. its a continuation and development of that tradition. It has always amazed me how few of the chapters, draft papers, little magazines, reading groups, salons and even café culture are online. It is not just academia that resists the changes wrought by digital publishing.

Gregg then states the significant potential that blogging offers for cultural studies. She says that in the world of blogs:

..knowledge loses any sense of being something to be guarded. It instead becomes something to be facilitated, discussed and improved. Blogs can create an economy of generosity and gift at the expense of jealousy and possessiveness.... They encourage collaboration as much as competition. The participatory nature of writing, response and counter-argument on blogs allows for ongoing debate, critical refinement and thinking-in-process. In this they illustrate very well that version of cultural studies practice described by Stuart Hall, which is ‘to work with our always inadequate theories to help move understanding “a little further on down the road”’.

Precisely, even the traditional academic culture has a deep fear of the democratic public sphere.

Gregg defends the middle ground by saying that blogging can contribute to and mirrors traditional scholarly practice rather than just threatening it. Graduate students have taken them up with such fervour is that blogs offer solidarity out of isolation, especially on long projects. They create the conditions for collegiality, brainstorming and frank, fast feedback while also generating and maintaining interest, enthusiasm since blogging offers an exciting new avenue for academics and non-academics alike to ‘speak to each other’.

This potential has to be actualized.The best way to do this is to recognize that blogs can foster conversational scholarship by actively seeking the voices of others and that blogs are a modest political tool in that they can help overturn the hierarchies of speech traditionally securing academic privilege.

| Posted by Gary Sauer-Thompson at 6:17 AM | | Comments (13)
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Gary,
We had a chat about this at my confirmation seminar. There's a bit of uncertainty over how to conceptualise digital publishing of all sorts for academic purposes.

Do you really want your work exposed to the sort of public bun fights in OLO comments? Why would a PhD candidate waste time writing something for OLO when they could spend their time working on something for a brownie point accumulating exercise in a print journal or conference?

According to heavyweights Habermas and Jeff Alexander the internet wilds where public discussion occurs is a disorganised, disreputable rabble. Babel. As an academic with a reputation to build or preserve, mixing it with the hoi polloi can be a bridge too far waking up with fleas.

Some free access, peer reviewed journals are appearing as you know, but they don't carry the same weight as the gated community. Academic linguistic requirements don't lend themselves to public discussion.

There's also uncertainty over how to teach the internet and how, or whether, to use it for teaching/learning purposes. Internal discussion boards work well for external courses, but not so well for internal ones. Is it reasonable to ask a tender undergraduate to expose their work in progress?

Glen Fuller documented his whole PhD experience on his blog Event Mechanics. On a recent LP thread other people I suspect are also academics ripped it into him for his phoney cultural studies pretentiousness. He took it well but I know I couldn't.

As a lecturer/blogger, do you want your students to see you getting flamed? It would be a great tutorial discussion cue, but academic egos are not all the same size.

Personally I'd like to see blogs building collegiality and the bravery and gentleness of Home Cooked Theory. But I expect you'd see the same sorts of divisions in academic blogging as in the rest of the blogosphere. Left, right, civilised discussion, discursive war, high brow,low brow.

Also, what do you do with a moving target? By the time you've organised what you're going to do blogs could have morphed into little TV stations.

I spend a lot of time thinking about this and am using this thread to think out loud. Don't feel you need to respond.

My supervisor is based at Nathan campus in Brisbane and comes to the Gold Coast once a week to lecture. He gets here early to meet with me and his honours people. Last year it was me and the kid doing an ethnography of Supanova, pop nerd culture. This year it will be me, a first year PhD doing nightclub culture and tourism on the GC, and two honours students. One of them is doing the yummy mummy thing and the other one wasn't sure.

Ian is becoming a popular supervisor choice from a pool all based in Brisbane.

Most of the time we sit around having casual discussions about one another's work, suggesting ideas or references or angles. It's all very informal and very supportive. And very once a week which isn't always enough. Email doesn't always do what you need it to.

I'm thinking guest posts here might be a good, safe way of introducing the blog discussion concept.
-Nobody here is going to ridicule the kind of intellectual missteps you make at the start.
-Comment approval is a further safeguard.
-These people come up with some amazing ideas.

Lyn,
the fear amongst academics about blogging is very strong. I'm taken back by it. It's the Other to academia, despite there being a lot of rough and tumble in academia (I'm putting it nicely).

The academics see the worst--what is on some of the political blogs. That kind of flame war is not on philosophical conversations. It presupposes a certain kind of knowledge to participate.

Moreover your ideas have been treated with respect on public opinion. There is no flame war there, and that is the most political of the blogs of thoughtfactory.net

Lyn,
Melissa Greg's ideas in her article-- that she linked to for us---are not being ripped apart. They are being engaged with and treated seriously. She is seen as soembody who has soemthign important to say because she is both blogger and a researcher on the culture of blogging and social networking.

How can that be equated with the Habermas and Jeff Alexander's view of the internet wilds where public discussion occurs is a disorganised, disreputable rabble. Babel.
If as you say:

As an academic with a reputation to build or preserve, mixing it with the hoi polloi can be a bridge too far waking up with fleas

then we have a misplaced elitism, as many bloggers are more academically qualified than some academics.

It is true to say---as Greg does-- that
blogging remains a liability in a professional environment focused on Tier 1 journals, intellectual property and the tyranny of excellence; and that as a form of counter-professionalism, blogs exhaust our most precious resources as academics: good ideas and spare time.

But it is not just academics who have good ideas surely. Aren't others equally constrained in terms of spare time?

Lyn,
you say:

Most of the time we sit around having casual discussions about one another's work, suggesting ideas or references or angles. It's all very informal and very supportive. And very once a week which isn't always enough. Email doesn't always do what you need it to.

So why wouldn't the revamped version of conservations provide a way to meet the lack you all feel? Why cannot these conversations be linked to online papers?

Gary,
I agree with Gregg's view. I didn't make that clear. Saskia Sassen said people who reject the internet as the rabble don't understand it. You could also argue that they serve their own interests by keeping everything exclusive.

I was listing some of the concerns people have, some of my own about the wider blogosphere and some stuff I've seen happen elsewhere. Anticipating arguments in the negative I guess.

I also agree with those who argue that in this age of economic accountability, we should also consider accountability to the public, especially when the public is the object of research.

My proposal didn't include anything on academic blogging, so it was raised as a kind of side issue. The possibility of using Conversations and maybe Junk for Code hadn't occurred to me. I hadn't started blogging back then and didn't appreciate how your set up works to create a secure environment or how the culture of Thought Factory itself contributes to that. This is a very supportive and nurturing environment. My main concern is shielding beginners from damaging criticism, which can be controlled here.

When I see my supervisor next, hopefully with his new recruits, I'm going to propose Thought Factory as a useful supplement to what we do now. I'm putting together the most watertight argument I can, though I don't think I'll need it.

If the experiment works we'll then have a case to put forward to others, and hopefully some new recruits to the body of academic bloggers.

The other big thing in favour of Thought Factory is the resources library.

I can't think of any negatives that stand up to real scrutiny. Can you?

Lyn,
I'm suprised by the academic hostility to internet culture in the context of the innovation, creative economy, and the flow of knowledge in civil society.

Re your point about the negatives ----that would mostly come from the traditional hidebound university culture not supporting the innovation, conversation and creativity that places the public benefit in the foreground. There are only a few niches where the younger academics are stepping outside the university walls to discuss their ideas.

Gary,
The hostility isn't uniform. It's partly the old guard, partly the internet itself. How do you reconcile warning students not to rely on Wikipedia, then seriously expect academics to add to the confusion? Personally I don't understand why academics don't take it upon themselves to fix what they think is wrong with Wikipedia.

Commercial funding and the possibility of patents is a concern for some. You wouldn't expect someone developing a new drug to discuss their work on the internet.

Plagiarism is another problem. We know students plagiarise from the net, but what's to stop academics from pinching one another's ideas? Have you ever seen your own words pop up on someone else's blog with no acknowledgement?

I think some of the hostility, or suspicion, is warranted but the old guard arguments seem to be pure snobbery and self interest.

Despite all of that there is a lot of interest. The change will come I think, but slowly.

Lyn,
this academic resistance of the old guard to a digital world is a characteristic of the Australian university system. The Americans, it seems, are much more open and embracing.

For the old guard to use the example of you wouldn't expect someone developing a new drug to discuss their work on the internet is a red herring. How is that relevant to the humanities,reading books and discussing ideas.

It looks like the old guard in the universities have become disconnected from civil society and the public domain and wrapped themselves up in their own elitism to defend themselves from the barbarism in a mass culture. Such good modernists aren't they.These academics seem to have a romantic modernist notion of creativity --springs pure born from their heads when we all know they got their "original" ideas from reading other books. Don't they understand the concept of intertextuality? Even I understand that bit of Derrida.

If Wikipedia is seen as bad, then what do they make of Flickr and Web 2? How can they go on like this when the Library of Congress is putting its historical images up on Flickr inviting the user community to contribute to the public knowledge about these pictures, and is wrapped by the response?

Is it only early career researchers in cultural studies who have embraced blogging? Or do they go more for the op-ed in the mainstream media writing about bogan culture? It's more respectable?

Pam,
the universities were battered under the Howard regime, just like the ABC. They were seen as the enemy and treated as such. It's no wonder they went into defensive mode.

Pam,
From a public discussion/knowledge point of view, outlets are outlets. Communication between the public and the academy should be better regardless of which communication channel hosts the exchange. Obviously the net is better at conversation, newspapers are better established and TV is still the prize.

Bear in mind too, that the fun police are still warning that even the most wholesome website is only a click away from kiddie porn.

I'm not defending the old guard at all, but there are a lot of hurdles.

Lyn
the more I hear about your decriptions of the old guard in the academy the more I hear the views of cultural conservatism defending their own privileged position.

The internet is dystopia (plagarism, porn, self promotion, the diseased rabble). What has happened to the totalitarian Left who are meant to control the universities and are busily poisoning the minds of the young innocents with post modernism and cultural relativism?

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