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'An aphorism, properly stamped and molded, has not been "deciphered" when it has simply been read; rather one has then to begin its interpretation, for which is required an art of interpretation.' -- Nietzsche, 'On the Genealogy of Morals'

On Nietzsche#7 « Previous | |Next »
January 2, 2004

The fifth and last chapter in Part One of Bataille's On Nietzsche is very short. It consists of a paragraph from Daniel Halevy's 1911 biography of Nietzsche. I quote it in full because of its old fashioned conception of Nietzsche.

Halvey says that:


"Nietzsche had always wanted to write a classical work, a history book, a system, a poem, something worthy of the old Hellenes he chose as masters. He never had been able to give form to that ambition. A the end of 1883, he had just completed an almost desperate undertaking; and the abundance and importance of these notes allows is to have some sense about the greatness of a work that remained utterly in vain. He could not provide his moral ideas with any foundation, nor could be write his tragic poem; as the two books were frustrated, his hopes disappeared. What was he? An unfortunate---capable only of short efforts, lyric songs, cries."

What a lot of nonsense!

At the end of 1883 Nietzsche had completed Bk 1 of Thus Spake Zarathustra.

He then went on to complete Bk's 2 & 3 of that text the following year; then wrote Beyond Good and Evil and Bk. 5 of The Gay Science in 1886; wrote The Genealogy of Morals in 1887; wrote The Wagner Case, Twilight of the Idols, The Antichrist, and Ecce Homo in 1888 before he collapsed in 1889.

Contrary to Halvey's claim, Nietzsche's most creative and productive period of writing lay before him in 1883.

Bataille would have to be writing against the Halvery's biographic conception, as he was largely working off The Will to Power in the first section of On Nietzsche. This was first assembled in 1901 from Nietzsche's Notebooks from 1883-1888, translated in 1910 and appropriated by the Nazi's in the 1930s. Bataille discredits their interpretation (ie., that of Alfred Baumler who said it was Nietzsche's final system and crowning achievement) but he does not discredit The Will to Power. He reads specific sectoins of it carefully.

But what text--edition/translation--- was Bataille reading?

I have no idea of what sort of edition of The Will to Power Bataille was working from. He has not mentioned it so far. It certainly is not the one we have now. We are probably reading quite different texts. Not that it matters. There is a tremendous diversity of Nietzsches with every distinct reading provides another Nietzsche. Nietzsche's texts both promote and facilitate such a fecund reception through the literary strategies employed. So what we do is read and position ourselves in relation to Nietzsche.

That ends Part One of On Nietzsche.

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The not only the father of the physicists delusion. - Not all physicists are blockheads - Montaigne would be proud - Einstein said as far as mathematics is certain it does not refer to reality, as far as it refers to reality it is not certain - warmish. Niels Bhor didn't believe the 'state vector' of quantum physics to be a substantive reality, warm. Poincaire said that mathematical truths are selected by a kind of 'sublimated self' on the basis of a kind of 'aesthetic appeal', Disco. Penrose the high example of those mesmerised by the mystical allure of axioms, this piffling but profound coincidence (multiply and divide being such mysterious ones - 'Twice two' a note from underground or rather and better in a way the man boat hey Mr. Peter Chadwick British psychologist honourable - 'The Borderline Normal…') is his justification for arguing the concepts and methods he derives from the likes of pie and some geometrical others are indeed the life stuff of the universe, that his merely effective mastication's scribbles govern it! When his like and others decide they have hit the big one, nay when it is intellectual abomination of abominations generally agreed, thus the 'Laws of Nature' - however the reasons general belief in such are usually a lot more stupid, inspite of the frightful - Penrose is a coward he is capable of answers, rather profound refutations - intelligence. To say it again, insofar as 'truth' goes for valuation the only detriment it brings is in the instance of wanton falsity, this really is not life enhancing and certainly not every man is entitled to the degree of 'truth', honesty before oneself that every other is. There are types of men on rungs of broad vertiginous ladders, thus here join me and utter the first principle of understanding man: I hold this truth to be evident that all men are not created equal. It is the philosopher's stone of medicine once other things have been cleared up and pointed out, it is a key to growth and amelioration of power, a facet of the will to power that is life, to deny this is to deny the very heart of life - so profound is this nihilism! The character of existence power, change, greatness, the same greatness expressed in all great people nations and things, you show me one, even the law courts where power and rank in do not rule, if only today in forms of society and not as it ought to be in the hearts of men - conditions exploit men today, yet there are mighty valuations even for a 'nothing' of a man that can suffuse purity and power into man by repetition of sorts to ennoble - if Hitler could do it its possible everyone can but never everyone alike. The simpler the man the simpler the solutions and you would not believe the profound physiological alterations seemingly unassociated valuations stimulate, though man ought to. He certainly knows enough about arousal, intoxication, sportsman 'the zone' and all the variegated feelings that accompany conscious reflections: jealousy, envy, hatred, resentment, valour, empathy, anger and others all take their kicks from valuation. And as we know these things stress the body and it is these variegated stresses as their effects accumulate in variegated types that presses the processing, if you like, of the energies that lead to disorder, disease and death. On the other hand there is what is healthy for men, a fundamentally different pursuit linked only at the point of delivery and the methods of pursuit and knowledge though complementary go in fundamentally different directions, the former long term and of course looks at the unhealthy. The latter is shorter term and looks for the best, the good, which includes an increase in the length of time spent waiting on the goods - thus an imperious ruling will dominating a lifetime permits well there are no limits. The unhealthy picture can be pieced together much faster everyone can see, in one way or another what we are looking for. We are in a curious situation, everything is here that is required to do the job, human resources, technological and some methodologies but! it is a monstrous but, still nobody knows what I am talking about - though it sounds promising does it not?

Jurasic Park-like, closer, closer. - One day there ought be two very noble careers, that is not to say a career (never 'a profession' professionals as I'm thinking of them) would be for every noble man, but these men would certainly be different. There is a necessity of course, for a bit of a company shake down, in research I thinking 'establish the establishment' which involves ignoring and forbearing the current one. Then I envisage brave and increasing occasion inhuman soldiers of knowledge, the likes of whom push the boundaries of man's truth whilst adhering to rigour, not letting so-called 'rigour' deem what man should allow himself to see, example, fuzzy logic, PEAR labs and just about any other great and seemingly small discovery or field, homeopathic principles - or Einstein, Poincaire and Bhor… just about anyone that steps out of the boundaries of the great wet herd and increasingly rabble. I'm talking about the thing that so mystifies the admiring biographer or nihilised reader - why they are so admittedly increasingly toothlessly attacked (101 Authors against Einstein I imagine to not be the most flattering and wholesome of reads) on mass this now! is called resentment, or something even more unspeakable in addition to prudent cowardice. Little men don't like having to accommodate consciousness of something that is better than they can give, what others can give - the place I'm pointing to is dark and full of potentially and actually terrible knowledge, but you come out smelling like roses if born, put simply - like a man! Then there are the doctors who have to be driven in all departments especially forbearance pending mankind's what could arguably be called comprehensive apology, only beginning with rectifying their absurd conditions and comprehensively incompetent in comparison to what it could be, well, the rest of medical delivery rooted in its organisation. The economic principle mastered is sound, the morality is not however to put it mildly complementary to its effectiveness, thus why Thatcher did in the Unions and national industries she could and inspired this momentum up to the retrograde step of 'public/private partnership ["for the children"]', she was a very great stateswoman in this kind of regard... She also spoke something very deep in Britain, thus her three terms and Major's two despite contemptible activities and utter unrelenting incompetence. Blair is certainly the third way in so far as he is a combination of the first socialism, (set in motion equality fever with Churchill's intense effect helped by the war on government machines [he is most bizarre in this respect but that's another story]) swing Thatcherism whip lashing and 'egotist' excess of the Eighties which has merely got smaller inspite of its seeming, grandness: man will go on improving all the time and though Europe can absorb big events without noticeably suffering a war with a Muslim country perhaps, an economic rise of a seemingly stable nature - of which is that of man and 'interest rates' 'inflation' and taxes possess a modicum of control when all is well with men, if it is not well with men all's well if there are big enough men in the right places, a Winston for instance, and as is only fitting in her day in the halls of power, a Thatcher. Michael Howard by the way knows morality well and affects it, thus his sliminess in view of broader audience, this man has not a scruple, the time is not now for affecting party politic… indeed the decent man would one day withdraw his vote by and large - emergency measures - at present you can do very little good in contact with politics. So the act of going private would be a service by weakening 'the State' - a skeleton staff in the mean time perhaps. But this possibility a Roman Abromavich is needed or some such billionaire: the economic monster must be applied at its very peaks, in both senses. At a height where a man might say 'what do I matter' with all degrees of sublimity and hardness such entails. Thus this man would need the metal to make it big and the metal to act beyond himself: will and an end not a mere man and fragmented lifetime. Of course matters material need not be so comprehensive just as, and even more so the man with the cash is more comprehensively a man (much to my laughter's wicked delight Saddam is more of man than Bush, who would of crapped his pants and forgotten his shovel if he'd ever found the hole… more one of Saddam's henchmen.) And then it would grow this leviathan Cyclops: doctors capable of digesting the harshest of knowledge, though brutally simple, forbearing up and down, really down (and really ought this be circumstantial?) and all the skills spoken of by Nietzsche in Human all too human. Then the philosophers of research, which would best involve specialisations of all kinds as well as a comprehensive feeling and capacity for the spirit of the work right across the board. An organisational genius come on in a cultivated man would help, this is how a dreamer dutiful to the heart becomes effective. Of course such a transition would be bumpy as well as spectacular, but a world famous organisation such as it could be would like the white man and Drum n' Bass grow on the ear it touched with its sweet but dark, very dark knowledge, you heard it before? Cyclops! Oh money fountain, well of truth into which no bucket descends without coming up with something useful! I shall not bore the gentlemen I envisage with pecuniary chatter, that minor issue would almost speak for itself - the question here would be how best to least prevent the growth of the beast whilst best maintaining its integrity of purpose - organisation, organisation, organisation. The thing built on oh what purpose? being man's most visible pump and therein saviour (everyone wants to know about themselves, in one way or another) and symbol from here to a stage in mankind's history, when the very greatest of men would bear the mark of more profound and dark conscious perceptions and valuations that were fed and worked and grown piecemeal into the blood of men, in part, by this Cyclops: at such a time would be the crown symbol and tool of their ruling creative power steeped in the highest justice and turn these men, into practical gods - but this is quite another story… the main point of this one I think you get: strength, honesty and daring = Victory!

I would like to have a brochue about physicists such as einstein,bhor,shadwick,peter zieman etc and thanks.